hey--
sorry about that.
I'm looking into curing HSV-2.

I've been looking on Curezone and have decided to follow a treatment of Hypericin and BHT, Zapping and Probiotics, and Colloidal Silver.

I have to ask some friends who use zappers and drink CS the best brands to get.

However-- I would love to know from anyone who has actually been cured or knows of someone first hand who has been cured (and I'm not talking about just suppressing the outbreaks.)

Thanks!

To date, no one has ever been cured of herpes, or any other virus. Some viruses run their course, and then leave the body, or go dormant.

Others hang around. There is no cure for any virus, though.

Magic Johnson still has HIV. He is still infectious. He just has an undetectable viral load, meaning his meds are working to keep the virus from replicating, but he still has HIV.

Jess

"In those times you seem to forget, I don't mind reminding you that you are a beautiful soul." ~ Cindy Campo

Paragraphs are beautiful things.

Or does this mean he is not contagious?

Found a good article, though it uses HIV as a lipid encased virus:

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1922#i

The section that I'm interested in (though the whole thing is pretty good):
A trial protocol for CFIDS and HIV

1. Apple Cider Vinegar or white vinegar - 1 or 2 tablespoons in 4 to 6 ounces of water three times daily eight hours apart. Optional: with the bedtime drink add 1 tsp. of bonemeal powder to the vinegar and water.

2. Three IP6 capsules or 1/2 tsp. of IP6 powder taken with the vinegar and water at the same time 3 times a day PLUS

3. Two Bee Propolis capsules taken at the same time as the IP6 and the vinegar drink 3 times a day PLUS

4. Two Capsicool capsules (Nature’s way) taken at the same time 3 times a day.

Spacing the timing of the supplements equally is very important for sustained antiviral effect against HHV-6, HIV and other lipid envelope viruses. The cayenne is Capsicool will reduce IL-6 levels, help normalize body temperature and the Glucomannan in the Capsicool will increase butyrate production. The bee propolis and vinegar have wide spectrum antiviral effects. IP6 is a transcription inhibitor of the HIV LTR.

5. With each meal, sprinkle the juice of 1/2 lemon over the food or place the lemon juice in 4 ounces of water and take probiotics (Vital Biotics, Th-1 Probiotics, Jarrowdophilus, Bio K etc.) with each meal or probiotic powder either sprinkled over the food or mixed in with the lemon juice and water. The idea is to mix both the lemon juice and the probiotics with each meal. Lemon juice mixed with food promotes the growth of acidophilus and bifido bacteria. Eating foods high in fiber and FOS will complete the nutrients needed to promote the friendly flora.

6. ImmuPro (formerly called ImmunoPro) - 10 grams daily (to increase glutathione levels)

7. TH-1 Probiotics - 1 rounded Tsp. with each meal. Last month, I mentioned an alternative to Immunocal that is half the cost and, in my opinion, at least as effective as Immunocal. It is called ImmuPro. For more information, call ------- or -------- or see ad in this newsletter.

I wouldn't count on those thing being able to affect the latent viral dna in the nerve cells. That's probably going to take a high-tech solution. The problem with proving that someone is cured of herpes is that you'd need to remove the ganlgia and examine the nerve cells for herpes dna, which can only be done post-mortem.

Herpes has been cured by IV ozone under proper medical protocol and the
ELECTROJECT website is interesting.

http://lectroject.com/index.htm

There is no cure for herpes.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

Excuse me, but how can you possibly say THERE IS NO CURE FOR HERPES.

BS Sir. BS BS BBBBBSSSSSS

I don't care if you have 14 PH.D's, and you won the Nobel Prize 18 times.

You STILL could Not make such a statement.

Sir, You sound suspiciously like you work for a drug company.

Do You?

So Windy, what you are really saying is, you will not believe that there is a cure, until a drug company or the government tells you that there is.

Is that right Windy?

And can you, Windy, tell me, without a shadow of a doubt, 100% that there is no cure for herpes?

If so, then tell me Windy, please, just how you arrived at this amazing, iron clad fact?

What were your methods in determining this "fact".

And just how many treatments have you tried Windy? Please Share!

Here is a startling "real fact" for you Windy. It doesn't matter that the herpes lives inside the cell, or tries to hide between the cells, most viruses do this, the body knows it is there. The body just needs the proper ammunition to destroy it. Hello? Windy? Are you paying attention? Are you there?

Windy, you have been programmed. Your programmed response is "there is no cure". Now why would someone want to program you with that response? Why Windy?

Study on it Windy, please.

to date, nobody has demonstrated a cure for herpes

If there is one, and I missed it, please let me know what it is. I'll believe it when I see convincing evidence.

Glad you finally admit that a cure has not been demonstrated to YOU.

So in the future, please express your closed mind in other areas of this forum. Why not post in the "drug development" part of this forum? They are always thrilled to continuously hear that their is no cure!

I am, however, associated with truth, logic and a number of people in the scientific community who are, indeed, herpes researchers. I read what they write, listen to what they say and I think I've got a basic understanding of how the virus works. The reason, as Windy said, that I say that there is no cure for herpes is that the virus is actually a segment of DNA that becomes part of the infected nerve cell's DNA. There's no way to remove that segment of DNA without killing the cell.

I'm not saying that there's not going to be some way to suppress the transcription phase of the virus life-cycle wherein it replicates. Maybe that'll be good enough for all practical purposes, but it's not a cure since the virus is still there.

I hope that clarifies my position on this issue.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

Maby you still are.

Money and greed have a Much closer association with the scientific community than truth and logic.

Only a complete moron would be blind to this.

You keep talking your "suppression", mr. rajha, and that is all you will ever get.

You whine "but the dna is in the cell... oh me, oh my... so there is no cure" - Well so is the flu, the common cold, warts, etc... etc... etc... And the body cures those !!!!!

AGAIN mr rajha, the body can destroy ANYTHING, If it has the right ammunition!

Wake UP!!! And Please follow the advice I gave Windbag, don't post lies here that you cannot back up!
After you have interviewed and tested every single person on this planet, then come back and proclaim there is no cure.

You have ALOT of nerve posting these lies in the alternative section of this forum.

So go post you piles in the drug sections of this forum.

Goodbye!

You are not being particularly civil. We welcome polite discussion. Your posts don't fit well in that category.

Windy and I have science to back up our positions.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

Rajah and Windy have spent a good majority of their time helping people and being as objective as possible in giving information.
They deserve better. Over the course of this forum they've proved their point multiple times.

With better grammar. And spelling. And a consistent font and case.

Bah, just go away.

casey

p.s. I'm treading on the posting policy as well, so I apologize to the regular posters. I'm just pissed.

There may be a treatment that works better than suppressive therapy. I know I am still investigating that route, but don't want to proclaim anything till I am more certain about the results.

He was incredibly rude, and from his "goodbye" at the end of his post, I am guessing he isn't coming back. If he wants to, and he can express himself without hurling insults, he is certainly welcome.

Jess

"In those times you seem to forget, I don't mind reminding you that you are a beautiful soul." ~ Cindy Campo

Paragraphs are beautiful things.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

I wonder how Rajah would respond to a child that struck out during a baseball game. Would he say... "Give up. Quit. You can't do it. You've obviously proven to yourself and everyone around that you can't hit the ball. You should never play again. Don't even try!" ??

Even if no one has found a cure (yet), and there may not be one; that sparkle of a chance for a cure, no matter how small is important to a lot of people (say 1 out of 4?). The hope that a few determined people have is what drives them to search for a cure, with the dream that someday everyone with HSV can step up for their opportunity at a home run. To squash that dream is to seal your own fate and ensure to the world that a cure is NEVER found. Is that what anyone really wants?

The child playing baseball example is a very poor analogy. The method of hitting the ball is well known, but success takes practice. The technique of "curing" herpes is, obviously, not known.

I have some very good reasons for saying that there is no cure, based on talking with some of the world-class researchers in the field of the herpes simplex virus. Again, I suggest reading http://nocureforherpes.com for a more detailed explanation.

Note that I'm equating "cure" with removal of the herpes simplex viral DNA from all the affected cells in the patient's body. This is entirely different from vaccine techniques that boost the patient's immune system in dealing with herpes such that it keeps the virus activity under control to eliminate outbreaks and reduce shedding, or to keep an uninfected patient from getting infected.

Note, too, that I've been careful to not say that there will never be a cure, since never is a very long time. What I am saying is that none of us should hold our breaths waiting for such a thing since it involves technology that is not yet on the horizon.

The thing that does bother me about all this talk of a "Cure for Herpes" that we see on the Internet is that it's giving people false hope for some magical "cure" that doesn't exist and that it causes people to spend their money and hopes on ineffective treatments and disappointments.

I recognize that there is a lot of testimonial verbage out there that says, "I did treatment XYZ and my herpes is cured!" I submit that the normal course of herpes is that it gets better with time as our immune system naturally adapts to dealing with it anyway in absence of treatments. Of course, too, we've seen, right here in this very forum, examples of fabricated "testimonials" by someone who had their web site shut down by the FDA for making false claims of a cure for herpes.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

I have been browsing this site as I think it is a great idea. I have just signed up right now as I wanted to leave a comment to this.

It is very discouraging that some people are saying the same things over and over in the alternative section of the forum. Isn't that the point of the forum? All the administrators are doing is going to push people away from this site. And that is sad because as I said this is a really great idea. People don't want to go to browse an alternative section to have the same comments. Yes I agree that if someone is to make claims that they should back it up and I don't agree in mentioning a certain companies specific product unless there is some sort of proof that it is better. Otherwise the feeling is that person has some sort of share in that particular company.

First off I have to bring up another myth. Herpes can be caught from a toilet seat. Yes herpes cannot live outside the human body for very long on serfaces but it does for a short time. Even so most people would not get the virus this way anyways because the virus has to enter the body through a tear in the skin and this tear is at the microscopic level this does not mean a cut as I have read in some forums. I have never posted before on any site but I am tired of hearing people say it is impossible to get and quick to blame them as having it from an earlier partner. My experience is simple. My first outbreak was at the bottom of my butt, top of my leg. I went into a walk in clinic thinking something had bitten me. After the tests yah I was bitten alright but not by an insect. The doctor at that time told me that I could have gotten it from a toilet seat and asked it I had exercised prior to using a public bathroom as the irritation is just enough for the virus to enter. The answer was yes about 4 or 5 days earlier before I noticed any symptoms this was the case. The doctor had said he had a couple patients where this had happened but that it is very rare. I can't speak for anyone else but no I had not had sex with anyone prior to this period. No I didn't have anyone kiss my ass/leg or area. The most I had done to this point is kiss someone on the lips (by the way, yes it is HSV 2 as the doctor scrapped it and sent it away). I never shared a towel etc. Also I want to mention that I am normally the clean freak type that I put tissue around the toilet but to me this toilet looked clean and I was in a rush so I didn't bother. Thus the only conclusion that I can come to is the toilet issue. Sorry I know this is off topic a bit and I may post it in a more relevant section. My point is that people must stop saying never/can't etc. I have gotten this disease that people associate with having sex and say you can't get from a toilet seat yet that is the only logical case that I can come too for myself.

Now more back on topic but again dealing with the never/can't etc. I had met someone who I grew to be close friends with about 4 or 5 years ago now. She asked me why I didn't have a girlfriend and I ended up telling her my story and why I wasn't because I didn't want to have to tell someone that I had it. Anyways this person had mentioned how her sister had herpes and got rid of it. So yes I asked to talk to her sister. Her sister told me she had HSV 1 and HSV 2 which she got from her ex and had had it for 3 years and had constant outbreaks every month for HSV 2. She never tried any advertised miracle cures she tried one of the regular drugs (sorry don't remember what it was she mentioned) for about one week but she didn't like the side effects. She then tried taking natural things, she told me somethings, she said she was experimenting with different diets to lose a few pounds as well. She doesn't know what it was but that possibly could have gotten rid of it but she stopped and 6 months later went back to her doctor. The results were negative. She tested 6 months again just to check and again negative. Now I don't know what tests she did as I have learnt since then that there are many tests. Yes the virus could have just stopped emerging as she reached that certain time, but for me I believe her. She told me that her doctor had asked what she did so that he could tell other patients of his but she couldn't link it to anything. Anyways you can argue all you want. I believe her story as she has no reason to lie about it. She isn't trying to profit from it or make any claims. She said she doesn't know what she did but that she was on a healthy life style program, experimented with diets and natural supplements and is symptom free and said she got tested. For the next 2 years I knew her she made no comment of things changing for her. I am no longer in contact with them as that was a few years ago for me now. Yes it could have magically reappeared perhaps but I just wanted to share this story for those who are looking for alternative methods. I know I am not helping give a solution in anyway but I just find it frustrating that a site with such great potential says that it can't be done. There is a true story. So to say that you can't be cured of this virus is not right. Everyone has heard stories of people with Cancer etc. given only a short time to live and then all of a sudden it is gone. How do we explain this? Many of them can't. Many associate it to things they were desperately trying or in their religion. Anything is possible and I too am searching for the cure for me. I look to forums like this for ideas. It doesn't mean I am going to rush out and do something stupid but if something shows potential then I will definitely do my research on it.

For the moderators or admin members (whatever you call yourselves), just a suggestion but perhaps you should be more open minded and stop saying there is no cure to date. Yes there is no linked cure otherwise we would all be cured, but there are people claiming to be cured, and maybe it is just because we react differently to different things. And yes I have no doubt in my mind that most of these are fake but due to my friend, I know some are real. Perhaps it is better just to put up a banner at the top saying that there is no medical proof to any alternative methods. We already know this though but would save the constant comments in a section that people should be allowed and encouraged to step forward with ideas. If this lady had said she cured her herpes on this section and that she thought it was due to some product then you would have said nope, can't be cured and then she never would come back, nor would her theories work. Yes you aren't cured, neither am I for that fact. But don't discourage people. Yes you have the right to post but if you want this site to be more useful I highly hope that you don't. Limit your negative comments to those that claim some dangerous product so that people are informed. But please please encourage people to come here. The people who have cured themselves aren't going to spend their time on this website year after year sharing their ideas. I know I wouldn't. If I cured myself I might do that same thing and leave a comment and say this is my theory and then I would never be on again. I wouldn't want to have to think anymore about this virus that I have had to so much of my life already. I would spend my spare time being thankful that I was one of the lucky few. I know you perhaps have good intentions but I hope that you will listen what people are trying to say to you. They don't want your negative thinking and shooting people down with the same comment over and over again. Let them speak, isn't that what this section is for??????? When every single post from people is followed by the same comments that there is no cure, only medical tested products have shown success (e.g. valtrex), or something similar by the people who run the site is discouraging to myself and I can see it in the words from so many others and in so many other discussions. Is this the best way to run the site?? If you are promoters of the drug companies then I understand why as perhaps they pay money to keep this site running but then that should be posted as such and one comment is fine. If not then why is this section even offered on this site if you won't give it a chance.

No I don't promote company xyz type statements. If they work great but I am just as leary as the next person. No I don't want to see people taken advantage of and yes I think there are tons of scams out there. Yes there is a lot of talk about the cure for herpes. And most of that probably is just that, a scam. But if someone has money to spare and wishes to try it, I will not stand in their way (unless it sounded dangerous). And I would love to hear their results and so would a lot of other people out there. No my friend didn't take any miracle type cures, only supplements that could be found at your health store. Neither her nor her doctor could explain it. Does that mean she wasn't cured by your standards because they aren't able to link the cure to some product or action? We have all heard how we won't get any formal studies done on any product as it costs millions and millions of dollars to do just that and the only companies who fund this are the pharmaceutical companies and as we have all heard that won't happen unless they are able to paten a product so they can recoup their costs. And of course they are a business so it makes sense. Our best hope for hearing about herpes cases and their findings might be from sites like this. Please Please let this alternative section be just that and stop being so quick to shoot things down with comments that it won't work or it can't be done. If one person makes a positive claim I want to hear it and if another has a negative experience I want to hear that as well. I want to hear so I can make an informed decision. But we are all in this alternative section looking for hope. I have seen how it is mentioned how when someone posts something in similar threads that it is deemed as not okay because it is like spam, yet I read the same negative spam type comments coming from those same people.

Thank you for listening and reading my view. I hope it opens some of your eyes. For those who are searching for a cure I wish you all the best and I encourage you to stay positive as it is possible. What to do I can't tell you, I am here just like you searching for ideas.

I apologize for the long message and probably spelling mistakes etc. I am not writing this message to upset anyone or anyting like that. I hope this site will look at how it is running and really listen and let people say their things. The admins or moderators I know have their own views and even if you disagree that alternative methods can have success, well that is your own view and as such should be kept that way and not be put in the section of the forum where people are wanting to hear other things. I want to hear from those who try things and are open minded regardless of their results. Not it can't, it won't, no cure etc. That is only going to ruin your site and I see it has already as many people have left already which is so unfortunate and I had to say something.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

I apologize for it being so long.

Sorry.

The anecdote posted by chindyah about the sister of his friend is just an anecdote, not evidence, IMHO. First, I have no idea when this happened, he suggests several (2? 5? 15?) years ago and the tests were VERY different in each of those timeframes. 15 years ago, it is likely that any test done that was NOT a culture was non-specific and highly unreliable. So if that was the test done, it is not at all surprising that she might have tested negative.

And not having outbreaks, as has been talked about repeatedly, is often just a natural consequence of the progress (or regress) of the infection. That's why anecdotal evidence like "People who take this over-the-counter remedy often have many fewer outbreaks afterwards!" is completely absurd because people who do NOTHING have the same results. Unless there is a true study (preferably a double-blind study) that demonstrates a higher level of reduction in the people who took the drug compared to the people who didn't (and this needs to be a statistically significant sample) there is no way to "prove" that the drugs are effective in even reducing the disease let alone curing it.

Sorry, I am a scientist and I believe in evidence. Not raw anecdotal data with nothing else to back it up.

As Rajah points out, the clear evidence is that the effected DNA continues to stay in the body until death. Whether it results in further outbreaks or not, there is no cure for this disease at this time. No one knows what tomorrow will bring (I agree with this point of some of the critics). But right now, anyone who points to ANYTHING as a "cure for herpes" is blowing smoke out his butt.

By the way, another thought amused me. I was listening to a radio program today in which several very "credentialed" people (MDs, PhDs) were espousing the TERRIBLE PROBLEMS with vaccines and I realized, that IF a vaccine for herpes is ever developed, THEN we will have to start all over fighting the battle that people should get vaccinated because there will be a whole new group who will be saying that the vaccine is some nefarious governmental or drug company plot.

ROFLMFAO!S

Can you imagine what the US would be like today if people weren't massively innoculated with the Sabin polio vaccine (the "sugar cube" those of us in our 40s/50s all took back in the 60s and 70s)? Polio was a HUGE medical problem and many many thousands of people were ill with it and it had a HUGE impact on lives and families. And the vaccines pretty much wiped it out completely. I am always appalled at these arguments about people who refuse to get their children vaccinated against many severe illnesses. I almost consider it child abuse.

On the other hand, things like routine flu vaccines are questionable. For most people, the flu is a minor irritation and highly unlikely anyway, and the vaccines aren't all that effective and so I agree that for some vaccines, we probably shouldn't have universal treatment. But anyone who refused to get their kids vaccinated for polio or Smallpox or DPT should have their heads examined.

I like your "sig". Is there anything we can do for you?

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

Jon

We have been conditioned for so long to believe that we need pills to cure our bodies, live a healthy life and even as preventatives. This is a blatant lie. The human body can cure just about anything we can contract as long as it has the proper ammunition.

That ammunition is:

1. Proper vitamins and minerals. But because of the new-age diet that most of us consume, there are thousands of vitamins and minerals that we have probably never fed our bodies. That is another reason for so much obesity. While our bodies are screaming for the vitamins and minerals it needs, we hear a scream for food and eat some more.

2. Oxygen. Most people are not aware how the human body uses oxygen. When we breathe it in, it goes to our lungs. Our lungs separate out the o. It reverts back to its gaseous state and enters our blood stream where it enters the red blood cells and begins cleaning house. After bacteria, viruses, fungii, etc are killed off, the red blood cell can do its job of delivering that oxygen to our muscles, organs and tissues.

WWW.THESUPPRESSCURE.COM

go ahead and delete this Rahja, you fake fucking guru.

if you do, I'll just post the procedure for free.

i'll put the whole entire protocol for everyone to see so you will see that I am not trying to sell something.

It is certainly NOT illegal in the U.S. to say something other than a pharmaceutical cured something.

And BTW, I don't believe Polio was cured by a pharmaceutical; it was eradicated due to a vaccine--but that was produced by a drug company.

C.

Polio wasn't cured any more than I expect herpes to be cured, but the spread of it can certainly be curtailed by use of an effective vaccine. That's what happened with polio.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

I stand corrected. Pharmaceuticals haven't cured anything... period.

Since no one here seems to understand the law, you might want to grab book before you tell someone what is legal and what isn't.

Most people still believe that America is a Democracy - they have no clue that we have all been born into slavery under a Financial Colony.

Corporations lie to us, poison us, defraud us - and it's OK.

Politicians operate like a criminal class, posing at public servants
and then selling their influence and votes to the highest bidder
- it and it's OK.

Wall Street banks have literally stolen trillions of dollars in broad
daylight with the help of their criminals friends in government
- and it's OK.

As of April 1, 2011, Homeopathic meds will be illegal in the EU and everyone seems to believe that the US is next.

Under a Financial Colony nothing is legal unless it is specifically designated as such. Otherwise everything is illegal that is not specifically designated as such.

And you do not have to believe anything I say. Google it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy#Regulation_and_prevalence

In February 2010 the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee concluded that:

... the NHS should cease funding homeopathy. It also concludes that the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) should not allow homeopathic product labels to make medical claims without evidence of efficacy. As they are not medicines, homeopathic products should no longer be licensed by the MHRA.

The Committee concurred with the Government that the evidence base shows that homeopathy is not efficacious (that is, it does not work beyond the placebo effect) and that explanations for why homeopathy would work are scientifically implausible.

The Committee concluded - given that the existing scientific literature showed no good evidence of efficacy - that further clinical trials of homeopathy could not be justified.

In the Committee’s view, homeopathy is a placebo treatment and the Government should have a policy on prescribing placebos. The Government is reluctant to address the appropriateness and ethics of prescribing placebos to patients, which usually relies on some degree of patient deception. Prescribing of placebos is not consistent with informed patient choice-which the Government claims is very important-as it means patients do not have all the information needed to make choice meaningful.

Beyond ethical issues and the integrity of the doctor-patient relationship, prescribing pure placebos is bad medicine. Their effect is unreliable and unpredictable and cannot form the sole basis of any treatment on the NHS.

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Can you point me to a link, other than an alternative meds site, that has the actual text of the regulations that you're referring to?

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

From the little I read about hepatitis, some people do clear the virus as I have and apparently you have as well.

I don't know what hbp is, but I do know that diabetes can be "cured" with weight loss, and I know that arthritis is greatly helped with weight loss as well as with exercise. Beside the mechanics of moving more, maybe arthritis likes the increased oxygenation of blood. At any rate, I'm glad you feel better. I know a couple of people with rheumatoid arthritis, and my grandmother had what I think was osteoarthritis. She went through a lot of pain and her hands were completely gnarled by the time she died.

As an aside, how did you contract hepatitis from an ectopic pregnancy?

During that operation, the surgeon looked at my liver and told me it wasn't going to last much longer.

I had drank alcohol pretty heavily when I was younger and I assumed that was what he meant.

But one thing I have never had was a weight problem. A few times in my life I have probably had 5 pounds more than I would have liked, but I've been blessed that weight has never been an issue for me.

I believe that may have been because I have cooked meals at home every day for the past 45 years. I've never been much on eating out nor junk food.

HBP was my high blood pressure. My doctor actually took me off the meds for that himself.

Yes Hepatitis A is the friendly one that you can live with. I contracted Hepatitis B, the killer, from some tainted blood donated by some drug user. I feel forever grateful that this was before AIDS got into the national blood supply, tho.

Hepatitis A is hardly more serious than catching a cold. I had Hepatitis C from a blood transfusion. Verified by a doctor who treated me like a leper as if he was afraid he would catch it from me.

Hbp is high blood pressure.

Why are you talking to a healthy woman about what you think and what you believe might be possible? Why are you suggesting that 'weight loss' has anything to do with my statements. I have not mentioned any 'weight loss'. I have not experienced any 'weight loss'.

All I can do is tell you hat oxygen therapy did for me. If you wish to sort it all out in your mind, I don't mind... but I do have a problem when you make assumptions based on something you think you might have heard me say.

I just told you about my 'miracle' and it is nothing short of a miracle... and the best you can do is to try to explain it away?

I find that rather offensive.

And FYI, I don't believe oxygen therapy is right for everybody. I believe that some people just have to continue to suffer from the myriad opportunistic diseases that oxygen therapy can cure... while they sort it all out in their head and make excuses for this and that.

I wish you all the best.

I'm working with Bervin, and there's some other consultants. Oxygen therapy alone doesn't work. You guys should talk to him. I don't know if he's right on everything he says about herpes, but they're producing negative test results, and they nag you to get tested when you're done... he's just one of the consultants anyway. All I know is that the people using his program are going for PCR DNA tests afterwards and they're testing negative unless they fuck up on the peogram. It's a hard protocol and I gave up three times before buckling down. Ya, they charge money, but once you know how they do it and what to use and eat, you can do it again on your own if you fail...

Anyway, MY KINGDOM FOR A DONUT!!!

The diet plan is not very good
I'm not sure that my test will be negative because I have been smoking throughout the protocol. He said that he doesn't think it will make a dfference, but I don't know if he's worked with smokers before. Some people don't make it on the protocol because it's hard, but if you do, get tested. I started two months ago, trying three times and failing at first, but no outbreaks since then. I lasted five days on one, so maybe I knocked a lot of it out.