DMSO should be used cautiously. It can be extemely poisonous and harmful in large doses. Please be careful!

To do more research go to www.dmso.org

where did u apply it? I hope "nani" isn't code for genitals.

It sure worked for me. Over two years without an outbreak, and that's after 3-4 times each year since 1983.

I think the key to any of the ozone, oxygen, and anti-viral approaches is this:

1. Viruses are tough, so think long term with the program. It has to be applied twice a day, for 180 to 300 days.

2. Look at what a virus seems to like, and what it seems to not like. From what I've read, they do hate alkaline/oxygen environments. Do things each day that make it hard for them to live.

3. The first month of the program, go slow and increase the dosage slowly. Too fast seems to make the virus move around.

4. While it's easy to diss any approach with comments like "scam/ripoff!, exploitation", listen instead to those who have found what works (meaning: those that have not had outbreaks for a long time). Model what they do. Learn the little tricks that help.

5. Last: think Lifestyle, vs Magic Pill. It's like exercise: 15 minutes a day, vs one 100-mile run once a year.

?????? you're supposed to use only when you have symptoms.

It's nice to think that you haven't transmitted herpes to your boyfriend but how do you know for sure? Has your boyfriend ever been tested specifically for the herpes virus? Also, people that have genital herpes type-1 tend to have less frequent flare ups. So, how do you know that you don't have genital herpes type-1 and perhaps that's why you haven't had an outbreak? To just assume that it's because of the DMSO that you've tried without addition concrete information is truly accurate, ya know?

>it was never painful for me and i never got bad breath
>because i used a less concentrated cream. i say it works.

You actually ingested the stuff into your mouth? Wow!!

Angela

I am guessing you have not done any research. I have done extensive research and the bad breath that this person was speaking of was not cause from her putting it in her mouth. DMSO is sooo very abosrbant and goes right through your skin. It then will be carried into the blood stream and other body fluids, thus the saliva. DMSO alone has an unpleasant odor. What this person is most likely referring to is that they did not notice an unpleasant odor from their mouth due to external use.

It makes your breath smell like garlic because DMSO smells like garlic and penetrates into your body so quickly. But YES, it is perfectly safe to drink. I wouldn't suggest you use this product though because it is for people who really want a safe cure that works; not one the FDA CLAIMS is safe and actually harms you.

could you tell me if you used h202 daily twice and the dmso once a month or how does it work? what are the specifics of the regiment?

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Nathalie

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If anyone doesn't know 35% H2O2 can acuse severe skin and chemical burns. Read the MSDS sheets on that stuff before handling it.

HOwl

And yes, 35% hydrogen peroxide can cause burns. It should definitely be diluted, probably down to 3.5%, before being used.

I've not had or considered having a hydrogen peroxide drip treatment. It sounds pretty dangerous and, honestly, it just won't be beneficial, in my opinion due to the nature of viral infections. Like I say, though, that's my opinion.

Have you tried the FDA approved antiviral meds? They are proven through extensive studies to do more than any of the alternative treatments as far as relieving herpes symptoms or suppressing the virus, if used that way.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

Besides the debate of whether or not it's safe - for those of you who do use DMSO and/or hydrogen peroxide, do you apply it to the lower spine, or to your genital area? And when/how often do you apply it?

I am a fairly healthy person..um 7 years without calling in sik..I do occassionaly get a cold...drink some heavy green tea..and i'm better in one weekend..

I, myself do not take any forms of drug..not even cough syrup and I tend not too..I believe the best thing you can do is not to take any drugs..unless it will prevent ever getting it..

The only thing that brought out the herpes, (which didn't know it was even herpes) was wen I took accutane..

Also, there is a cure for herpes..if you do not believe you will never be cured..just a food for thought...

all i'm realy saying is..be positive...dun think there is no cure..cause there is...you have to find the right product for u..cause once again EVERY BODY IS DIFFERENT..tats a fact

anyways..here is some interesting reading..

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/herpes.html

we are only supposed to use the food grade hydrogen peroxide... but

i decided to try an experiment with my "cold sore" herpes.

the sore was just begining to form the day before, so...

i bought a 32oz bottle of standard 3% hydrogen peroxide from walgreens, filled my bath with hot water (non-chlorinated),
dumped in the whole bottle of peroxide, then I got in.

I soaked for about 20 minutes until my hands got crinckly, I even went under water a few times, but was sure not to let the water get in my eyes.

the next day, the cole sore split open straight down into my lip, ah ha, the sneaky little virus was dying, I could feel it. I was laughing !!!!

and the next day, my lip is completely healed, and the sore is gone.

In another week or so I will get the 'food grade' peroxide, and kill off any remaining herpes who think they eluded me !!!!

hmmm, Yes!! Hydrogen Peroxide Cures Herpes !!!! AND it most likely cures a host of other diseases.

What a messed up EVIL world we live in, where these so called "doctors" and their puppet master Drug Companies don't want us well so they can prey on us.

I have asked God to put me in the Front Row on Judgement Day so I can watch them ALL BURN !!!!

Bruno

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

Here's a page that one of our folks put together about DMSO. http://www.racoon.com/herpes/main/dmso.htm

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Please join us in an informative discussion of the many and safe uses of DMSO.

The body doesn't shed nerve cells like it does, say, skin cells.

DMSO is an industrial solvent. Stay away from it.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

As for your web link, the whole point of using DMSO is to carry the antiviral to the cells. And any cell that has a virus in it, the antiviral will disrupt its DNA. So, if the cell's DNA is disrupted, it will not be able to replicate. If it cannot replicate, it will eventually die off (or something like that).

The whole point of not taking the pills is that it will do NOTHING!!! The pills can never reach the virus in your cells. The risks of taking pills for the rest of my life are NOT worth it!

Thanks for your opinion though...I just strongly disagree with your comments about DMSO.

While the DMSO penetrates the skin, it doesn't carry the acyclovir into the cells any more efficiently than just taking the pills. The replication I'm speaking of is not cellular replication, it's the viral replication within the cell that acyclovir interferes with. Two entirely different things. Blocking the transcription phase of the viral DNA, doesn't kill the viral DNA, but it stops the replication that produces outbreaks.

Take a look at http://darwin.bio.uci.edu/~faculty/wagner/movieindex.html for an animated illustration of how the virus actually operates inside the cell. You may find it helpful.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

It enhances the penetration into cells as well. There fore more of the agent it is delivering is getting into the cell, more cells are being penetrated and less drug is metabolized before reaching it's target tissue, generally speaking.

I would challenge Rajah to provide the documentation to support his assertions.

I will if you will . . .

::::throwing down the gauntlet::::::

The easiest way to get antivirals into herpes infected nerve cells is oral administration. Why bother using a scientifically questionable technique such as DMSO to increase topical acyclovir penetration when you can ingest and antiviral and get a known antiviral effect which is safe?

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

Zovirax cream contains 50mg of acyclovir per gram. The tubes come in 2g. and 5g. sizes.

The bioavailability of oral acyclovir is 10-20% and decreases with higher dosages.

One 400mg oral dose will give you about 60mg. If you used a gram of the cream and got 100% delivery, which is probably a bad assumption, it would give you about the same amount of acyclovir. It'll also give you the other ingredients (cetostearyl alcohol, mineral oil, poloxamer 407, propylene glycol, sodium lauryl sulfate, water, and white petrolatum) and whatever happens to be on your skin or whatever touches the area (soap, cosmetics, and dye from clothing are possibilities). I didn't look up the Material Safety Data for those other ingredients, but something tells me I don't want a lot of that stuff in my blood.

I've never used the cream. How much skin area does half a small tube cover? That's what you'd need for a single dose, and that dose will cost you about $5-7. You can get the comparable oral dose for 25 cents, and it doesn't have the risks or difficulties that DMSO has.

DMSO would carry in substances with a molecular weight under 1000 Daltons, so without knowing the mw of each substance we don't know what would be carried in or not. 1000 Daltons would be a small molecule, even hormones are not transported by DMSO, as they are over 1000 Daltons MW.

I personally would not mix DMSO with substances that are mixtures like this cream, even though all of those substances have been tested and deemed safe for topical application and absorption. I look for pharmaceutical agents in their pure powder or liquid form when ever possible. Short of that I would investigate what substances are in the oral form and then possibly use that form to mix with the DMSO for topical application. DMSO can also enhance the oral absorption of an substance, when combined and taken orally. Best on an empty stomach.

It does behoove one to do some reading before jumping into using any treatment. But DMSO has very few "difficulties". Most of those are disinformation propagated by the pharmaceutical industry to create FUD, Fear Uncertainty and Doubt and keep an uninformed consumer public afraid of using anything that they do not promote as safe, even though many of their agents have proven to be unsafe after being foisted on an unsuspecting and trusting public. Many of these so called safe substances have caused death or permanent disability. So no I do not trust what the pharmaceutical industry says about the safety of a substance. I look to the scientific literature and time. I don't use new agents that are incompletlely tested until they have been "field tested" for at least 2 years. Phenphen comes to mind....

DMSO is safer than aspirin, plain and simple. The only "difficulties" such as skin drying are easily surmounted and the therapeutic benefit is well worth the trouble in my experience. I have used DMSO for many years with no issues what so ever. It is in daily use in many hospitals and clinics. You may not hear of it since it has such an undeserved poor reputation but it is there. It is also what organs and stem cells are transported in because it keeps the tissue alive -- those organs and stem cells are then implanted in patients -- why would they use DMSO if it has "difficulties"?

Seems to me this is another case of assumption and disinformation at work. Again it pays to do your own research.

DMSO is the onl¥ substance I know available to the public that can stop a heart attack, stroke and reverse the effects of traumatic injury. Spinal cord injuries have responded even after 7 days. I find it a fascinating an useful all natural substance. It comes from trees and is already present in many of our foods such as coffee, corn and oysters. So you are already taking DMSO if you eat! LOL

For more information
Google DMSO
www.dmso.org
www.jacoblab.com -many scientific articles on this site. Stanley Jacob, MD developed DMSO for organ transport in the 70's.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Anyways...this was my question in the forum, plus his answers:

Me:
I have been doing some research on using medical grade DMSO and Acyclovir to make the herpes virus "unreactivatable". Does this sound somewhat promising?

The person would apply Acyclovir cream to the lower back (for genital herpes) and then apply DMSO (the easiest method would be to use a prediluted DMSO spray). Acyclovir is meant to disrupt the viral DNA so that it cannot replicate. But antiviral medications can only treat a herpes outbreak, not the virus itself. So, if DMSO could carry the antiviral to cells, in theory, it would be able to disrupt the viral DNA within the cell...right?

Chris:
I'm afraid that your strategy will not work because the problem of herpes reactivation is not related to a failure of aciclovir to reach the virus inside cells - aciclovir can be taken by mouth (or injected) and reaches every part of the body with good efficiency.

Instead, the problem is that the latent (quiescent or dormant) virus is not vulnerable to aciclovir. It is only once the virus has reactivated and begun replicating (usually symptomatically) that aciclovir is effective. This is because, in its native state, the drug must be activated by a viral gene product called thymidine kinase (TK), which is only made when the virus is active.

So, I'm afraid, your DMSO approach, whilst a good idea, is flawed in theory and in practice.

Me:
Okay...I have also read about using DMSO by itself or with hydrogen peroxide. Both claim that oxygenating the cells would not allow the virus to thrive (since viruses cannot live in an oxygen rich environment). Is there any truth to that theory?

Chris:
No, that theory is rubbish. The virus lives in nerve cells, which have a very high metabolic rate and hence high oxygen demand and delivery. There's no evidence for oxygen under physiological conditions killing viruses. Perhaps you're thinking of anaerobic bacteria, like Clostridia or Bacteroides, which are certainly destroyed by oxygen exposure?

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That all makes sense to me!!!! I won't be trying the DMSO therapy now. Oh well...

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain

I agree, and this is backed up by many good research papers, that using DMSO a treatment method to target the *inactive* virus is likely to fail. I also agree that the virus, while safely ensconced in the nerve ganglia, can be pretty much invincible. But, I feel it could be a mistake to dismiss DMSO as a treatment option for herpes for just these reasons, as there are well documented ways round this.

The virus is not inactive all the time. Treatments protocol that include creating bodily conditions that are hostile to the virus, thereby forcing it out of it's 'lair', can succeed spectacularly. Having said that, I also agree with posters who caution that DMSO is a substance to be treated with respect. In the past, there was even concern that it could help carry substances across the blood brain barrier, although recent research disputes this. Still...

I think that with caution, DMSO-based therapies have their place in getting people to a situation where they are pretty much asymptomatic. Short of an outright cure, this can really help ease the distress of having this condition. I could go on but it would make this a very long post. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link to the original post I made, here's the link but if this goes against the rules of the forum, please remove it with my apologies.

Link removed. Thanks for recognizing that it might not be in compliance with our no advertising rules. - Rajah

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